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Post by (retired) on Feb 10, 2015 7:56:19 GMT -5
the last sentence is funny since cheaters can be funders too. Exactly...but probably the absolute number of hackers will be less. And I believe they are more likely to tell him how to hack the game.
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Post by mamemon (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ on Feb 10, 2015 8:06:47 GMT -5
you maybe? XD
and i highly doubt those malay hackers would tell him, they dont give a fuk actually i plead that they wont and make everyone think the server is clean so that the app can be publicly released sooner.
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Post by mera on Feb 10, 2015 8:41:43 GMT -5
well i guess thats obvious otherwise peeps can just share the code around along with the apk. Yeah but it's absurd that if I change my phone I can't play DU anymore.
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Post by Ras Yahni on Feb 10, 2015 11:49:30 GMT -5
well i guess thats obvious otherwise peeps can just share the code around along with the apk. Yeah but it's absurd that if I change my phone I can't play DU anymore. It's a shame, Bulzipke is going to kill everything that made this the best Digimon app. :/
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Post by blaziken662 on Feb 10, 2015 14:16:19 GMT -5
It's a shame, Bulzipke is going to kill everything that made this the best Digimon app. :/ I guess this issue became critical just because the battle and the online ladder systems aren't optimal, as the ones who "hack" the app to get access to the hidden Digis do not have such negative impact, well at least as long as they don't use the "egg" sprite to fight. Redesing the battle algorithm (and also the image pointers for the LCD data) is "cheaper" for the community to afford than the restrictive app "fixes" that the dev is encouraging (not only economically, but also "socially" speaking). And also the infamous "Copyrigth issue" can be worked around in the same way that it was done with Androgochi. Or am I wrong, (retired)? Good luck!
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Post by Razzi on Feb 10, 2015 16:52:10 GMT -5
The lame thing is that with this code security activation you can play DU on just one device. If you have two phones, your code can be used only for one of them and only once. So if you broke your phone and get a new one, you can't play DU anymore because the code is already taken. Here's a big maybe, but if the new security works really well maybe he will allow us to backup our save files again and therfore be able to change phones and keep our digimemories and what not. Seeing as you currently can't copy the save file (maybe you still can if you've rooted) with helium otherwise we are going to have to bother him for a new code every time we get a new phone.
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Post by Ras Yahni on Feb 11, 2015 10:35:54 GMT -5
The lame thing is that with this code security activation you can play DU on just one device. If you have two phones, your code can be used only for one of them and only once. So if you broke your phone and get a new one, you can't play DU anymore because the code is already taken. Here's a big maybe, but if the new security works really well maybe he will allow us to backup our save files again and therfore be able to change phones and keep our digimemories and what not. Seeing as you currently can't copy the save file (maybe you still can if you've rooted) with helium otherwise we are going to have to bother him for a new code every time we get a new phone. Does changing device ID work?
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Post by blaziken662 on Feb 11, 2015 14:47:15 GMT -5
Here's a big maybe, but if the new security works really well maybe he will allow us to backup our save files again and therfore be able to change phones and keep our digimemories and what not. Seeing as you currently can't copy the save file (maybe you still can if you've rooted) with helium otherwise we are going to have to bother him for a new code every time we get a new phone. Well, at least for the v1.19 to v1.21 update from today I didn't lose my Digimon's data, not even my custom theme or my server name... As a side note, after the V1.15 to the V1.19 update the MIUI's Security Center stopped to mark the app as a virus, so maybe the .odex protection code patched that issue too! Does changing device ID work? I guess (retired) has already mentioned that changing IDs is not possible this time, but I'm not sure. Good luck! Edit: I sucessfully used TiBu ti restore my game file in the same phone after a ROM flash.
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Post by mamemon (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ on Feb 11, 2015 20:56:06 GMT -5
honestly Bulzipke should just make the app not work with TiBu. Using that is as good as cheating.
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Post by (retired) on Feb 12, 2015 1:39:36 GMT -5
I did mention that the DU id can't be changed unless the player reset the phone. However, another member here Gazimon also mentioned on Bulzipke's fb that Xprivacy and Xposed can be used to avoid id ban. Though I have no idea if id really related to gift code by any way.
Now I do have to solve this code problem, and I tried that copying reg.dat file from 1 device to another won't work.
In fact, TiBu has been disabled in a lesser extent. Once the id of the backup is different from that you have currently, that backup will not be working at all.
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Post by (retired) on Feb 13, 2015 2:13:34 GMT -5
So I finally got my new code and was able to 'test' it with Game Killer. And the result is just disappointing.
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Post by mamemon (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ on Feb 13, 2015 6:38:52 GMT -5
disappointing for hackers or for legit users
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Post by (retired) on Feb 13, 2015 7:30:17 GMT -5
disappointing for hackers or for legit users I think from the view of legit users. I did pay USD $12 for the security solution, it's not worth to pay that amount in order to hack.
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Post by blaziken662 on Feb 13, 2015 11:46:00 GMT -5
So I finally got my new code and was able to 'test' it with Game Killer. And the result is just disappointing. Well, I don't know exactly how the app's environment works in Android, but as long as I know the dev's "protection code" is a .odex guarding one, which means that only the internal code of the app can't be altered (i.e. battle algorithms, evolution paths, power gains with evolution, # of AP gained per training, etc.), but it DOESN'T protect the RAM or the user's data nor the app's cache against modding, so the hacks will still work "forever", specially because the Digi's AP and its LCD image are stored into the user's data, I guess as pointer data. If my theory is close enough to the reality then I must encourage you to check the Pokemon game's data structure AND the save structure (both are needed to understand this issue), maybe that way we could suggest a better solution for this madness, ho ho! Why? Because if the dev doesn't get the definitive fix then he'll probably leave the project. If that happens it could be nice to persuade him to give us his code to keep the development of the app! (Just kidding! ) Good luck!
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Post by mamemon (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ on Feb 13, 2015 20:42:49 GMT -5
what are you talking about, its easy to hack pokemon as well.
the only way to make it 100% cheat proof would be to have the game state run on the server and make the client only receive data.
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